3 July 2025

77 thoughts on “2017-18 Winter League HDAFU Tables

  1. Hi,

    I was waiting for 2012-2016 summer tables to buy, regular chart didn’t and don’t show any updates, nor I got an e-mail notification about them available. i thought why it takes so long to wait since the new summer season is 7 just days away. Today, i opened basic version of the chart and found that 2012-2016 summer tables are available. Don’t forget to e-mail about new tables since the earlier you get them, the more time you have to analyse them.

    1. Hi Jo, as far I’m aware you have been already in touch via email with Rob and purchased your tables. Thank you and all the best for the forthcoming season!

  2. Hi Right Winger and Soccer Widow!

    Just want to ask you, why do you compile France Ligue 2 tables along with all others? Didn’t you say that it’s best to use only first tier leagues for this type of betting strategy? What is so special about Ligue 2?

    Thanks,
    Daniel

    1. Hi Daniel,

      Good question.

      Yes, France Ligue 2 is the only second tier league we consider including in any portfolio.

      And yes, it is a special league and very different from any other lower league we have ever analysed in detail.

      We include it because one bet type within Ligue 2 always stands head and shoulders above the rest. And the high frequency of the match result in question always reaps dividends.

      I would say that all other lesser leagues (i.e. not top tier) tend to suffer from a lot of statistical noise due to the fact that the stability of the number of teams playing in the league is affected by teams leaving either by promotion or relegation.

      Indeed, some of the lesser leagues have a 40% turnover of teams each season – in other words, potentially eight out of 20 teams will not be playing in that league the following season.

      France Ligue 2 is no exception to the disruption caused by promotion and relegation. Only 35% of the 20 teams were ever-present in all five seasons 2012-17 (and also during 2011-16). This is pretty typical of a lower league, whereas with a premier league, this percentage is usually 60-70%, with only relegation affecting the number of clubs present.

      With France Ligue 2, it doesn’t seem to matter what the make-up of the league is in terms of the teams represented in any single season, the results always remain remarkable.

      It’s always the same bet type that makes money, whichever season you look at. I can’t tell you why this phenomenon exists in Ligue 2, but it is a peculiarity we regularly take advantage of.

      I hope this helps!

    1. Hi Jo,

      This is in the final throes of completion and will be published in the next 2-3 days…

      1. Hey Right Winger,

        any news on the release of the winter seasons results? I am really dying to see it!

        Thanks!

        1. Hi Daniel,

          Yes, it’s all become a little hectic here, although I am hoping to finish and publish the article tomorrow.

          But don’t worry, I can assure you and everyone else who is waiting in anticipation that it will be worth waiting for!

  3. Could I get your opinion on a system I found within the Belgian Whole season analysis please?

    It’s relating to the AWAY WIN inflection graph. There is a point between odds of 8 to 8.35 where is a very sharp increase in the graph curve for a lot of profit.

    On analysis of this I found the following:

    Number of bets in 5 seasons: 21
    Number of seasons in profit: 5
    Profit: 5955
    Hit Rate: 47.62
    Win streak: 4
    Losing streak: 3
    Yield: 283%

    The profit and yield figures seem extremely good for such a small number of bets, as well as the system being in profit for all 5 seasons. The actual yearly profits (most recent first) are: 500, 500, 2020, 1100 and 1835.

    It seems on the face of it a very efficient use of resources to use a system like this.

    In your opinion would a system with so few bets, most likely 4-5 in this upcoming season be a viable one to include in a portfolio?

    Thanks.

  4. Hi Simon,

    The system you have described is obviously very high risk as it involves potentially very few bets in a season.

    In your overall portfolio, you’ll need a blend of low, medium and high risk systems running parallel with each other to support taking a risk on something like your Belgian example.

    We would probably include only one such system in our portfolio, subject to it being a part of a minimum of 15 systems running concurrently. But personally, I would prefer something providing a minimum of perhaps 10-15 bets a season.

    And, you really cannot afford to miss a single betting opportunity playing such small numbers.

    At the end of the day, it’s all about personal taste and building a sound portfolio according to your acceptance of risk. Go with it as part of a well-balanced portfolio, but not in isolation.

    Hope this helps.

  5. In your 10k in 178 days article you announced a a stop-loss mechanism and a ratchet system for upcoming HDAFU-tables. Is this implemented in the new 2017/18 tables? And are the any other improvements compared to the summer 2017 leagues? Thanks in advance and congrats to your great work. I’m using the summer leagues for two months now and like them very much.

    1. Hi Acepoint,

      The 2016-17 Campaign review will be ready in the next day or so. The free Excel download with that article will contain an example of a ratchet system and should be self-explanatory.

      The HDAFU tables do not contain a ratchet or stop-loss mechanism themselves. They are purely tools for compiling a balanced portfolio of bets. How you manage your money as you bet on your portfolio is a separate issue to finding systems that work in the first place.

      The 2017-18 Winter League tables are essentially the same as the 2017 Summer League tables. Just a couple of cosmetic changes, including moving the favourite and underdog odds next to the 1×2 odds to make it easier to sort.

      Lastly, thank you for your kind words – always good to hear that the products work for our customers as well as they do for ourselves!

      Good luck!

    1. Hello Jo,

      There are a number of reasons:

      a) When we included in the past the additional four analyses you have mentioned (both in the data tab and the backing by teams, odds and ratios tabs), obviously the size of the Excel workbooks was a lot larger (some were 12 MB!) than the slimmed-down versions we present today (maximum 2 MB).

      This meant that for people with slower processors in their computers, simple commands such as sorting the match list were painfully slow.

      b) With continued use of the tables for our own systems and, when writing the User Guide to help everyone understand how to use them, it became more and more apparent that we didn’t actually need the extra level of depth in the favourite/underdog analyses.

      When looking at the inflection points graphs to decide what to analyse, and then sorting the data to find the best systems, it is obvious that if you are looking at favourites in your profit/loss curve, then the vast majority of those games will be home favourites.

      Vice versa for underdogs – most of them will be the away teams.

      Of course, looking at the favourite or underdog from any perspective can be achieved simply by sorting the data tab and hiding what you don’t want to see.

      Analysing the away favourites and home underdogs therefore became more and more superfluous, which led to the decision to abandon them altogether in favour of reducing the size of the files for faster analyses.

      So, the decision was therefore nothing sinister or groundbreaking/revolutionary.

      I guess it is just another example of the law of diminishing returns in action – the further you go with an analysis, the less worthwhile the time spent is, compared to the results achieved.

      I hope this all makes sense!

  6. Hi, I plan on buying 10-12 tables and using them right away. There is, however, one question that is bothering me. You say that these tables are compiled using the highest bookmaker odds for all the games. However, I want to bet using only one bookmaker. Are the tables going to work that way? I mean, for example, let’s say I discover that according to your tables, in EPL all home games with odds between 2,10 and 2,50 will produce a profit, and then find and bet every single game where the home team is priced between 2,10 and 2,50 in Pinnacle ONLY. Is this going to produce the expected results?

    1. Hi Rado,

      Should be no problem using one bookmaker to bet with, especially if you intend to use Pinnacle.

      However, in order to identify the bets to place at Pinnacle, you will still need to check Oddsportal for the highest odds available in the market near to the close of the ante post period.

      Ignore Marathonbet, 1Xbet and Tempobet, as these tend to be misleading outliers.

      As the tables are based on highest closing odds, go with the majority view excluding these three problematic bookmakers. If the highest odds excluding these three are within your inflection points, then go ahead and place the bet with Pinnacle.

      Also, read the comments sections in the other HDAFU Table articles, especially the User Guide, and the Winter and Summer League Campaign reports, which all contain further tips on how to identify the bets.

      I hope this helps!

      All the best for now.

  7. Thanks for the fast reply.

    So, to sum it up, I must check the odds in oddsportal, and then place the bets according to the odds there, regardless if the odds in Pinnacle match them?

    For example, lets say my found system contains matches between 2,10 and 2,50. Then I find a match in oddsportal which is at 2,11 (which is in my odds interval), but in Pinnacle the odds are at 2,06. Should I bet on it then? I mean, should I identify the matches based only on the odds in oddsportal, regardless of which odds Pinnacle offers?

    And one last question, must I check the odds and place the bets always ON THE DAY of the matches and not earlier?

    1. Hi Rado,

      Yes, check the odds in Oddsportal first and decide to place the bet in Pinnacle depending on what the market majority in Oddsportal indicates.

      As Pinnacle is one of the sharper books around (low margin, high turnover), the odds you will receive will always be there or thereabouts in line with best market price available.

      The only issue you may come across using just a single bookmaker to place bets is when Oddsportal indicates one of the teams as a favourite but in Pinnacle they are the underdog (or vice versa).

      For example, if your system is for favourites and Oddsportal indicates that the bet should be placed, you should place the bet on the team in question even if Pinnacle designates that team as the underdog – I hope this is clear. This only ever materialises on games where the home and away odds are very close to each other.

      I’ve mentioned in other comments throughout the blog that we place the majority of our bets during the final hour before kick-off. However, because we know how the market is likely to move, it is possible to place bets sometimes days in advance, especially with home teams or favourites, where prices are likely to drift in (become smaller).

      The contingency for these bets is that if they drift too far and settle outside the smaller of your two inflection points, they can always be laid back at an exchange for an arbitrage. Placing draws or underdog bets in advance is more problematic as some will have a tendency to drift outside the higher inflection point – you’ll then have to lay these for a loss or take a chance and let them run (of course, some will win, some will lose).

      Placing bets early means tying-up money, so you can only consider early placements if your bank can withstand the long term liability and provide enough liquidity needed for bets nearer to their kick-off times. Therefore, you’ll need total control over your game schedule.

      Understanding how the market moves is an interesting, albeit time-consuming exercise. You will eventually suss that bookmakers employ several different strategies in order to gain market share. Some will start out offering best price on the favourites, whilst others fill their books with underdog money first. Some sit in the middle and adopt a more conservative approach throughout.

      They must all keep an eye on each other so that no one book offers odds that stand out like a sore thumb for any length of time, otherwise a flood of money would arrive on that outcome as punters seek best prices. This would make it harder for the bookmaker to balance its books, leaving it no option but to place bets itself with other bookmakers in an attempt to seek parity. (The other solution of extreme odds movements to try and regain balance would unsteady the ship even more).

      So, opening odds get the ball rolling, and depending on the amount of money staked, odds from every bookmaker move constantly throughout the ante post period. Some favourite prices remain pretty static throughout, others drift in the closer to kick-off the match gets. It is the same with underdog and draw prices too, although these are intrinsically linked to movements in the favourite odds, where most of the money will be expected.

      Choose a number of high profile games and check the time stamps in Oddsportal for a whole ante post period. Hover your mouse pointer over the odds of bookmakers you are interested in to activate the pop-out odds list and then take a screenshot (separate ones needed for home, draw and away odds as they will only open independently of each other), sometimes several times per day. Slowly but surely you will build-up quite a clear and revealing picture of how the market mechanisms operate.

      You can only do this for games that haven’t yet been played, as the time stamps list is only large enough to show aound 20 odds changes at a time. Because odds move so frequently, you may find it necessary to take several screenshots per day to provide a single day’s picture, and you’ll need to do it every day until the ante post market closes. Remember also that a fortnight after the result is determined, Oddsportal curtails the odds list on each game to show just the opening and highest odds reached by the bookmaker on the outcome in question – all that important odds movement information then becomes lost.

      Carrying out the odds review exercise on several leagues will make you realise that each league is different and governed purely by its popularity (liquidity, or the weight of money staked).

      Getting to know how and why the market moves is probably the most important waste of time you can carry out during your gambling career! It will enable you to anticipate what is going to happen with prices, which is the most vital piece of information for any trader or punter in any market, anywhere.

      Ultimately, it’s all about basic economics – the simple principles of demand and supply.

      Rado, I hope this sheds more light on everything for you and thanks for the questions.

  8. Is anyone else having an absolutely dismal campaign? I’m not calling the product or the concept into question btw, but this has been a tough couple of months so far..!

    1. Yeah. Been struggling as well. When does everyone place their bet? I read that you should be placing your bet one hour before match starts but that is hard due to life.

    2. Scott,

      Yes, I have struggled with results for the last 6 weeks. I’ve posted in more detail about my experience in “How we made £20k” article comments section.

      It seems for me that I have 4 systems showing heavy losses, 1 showing good profits, and the rest making a little profit or around break even. The overall result being the portfolio is in loss and just under 20% of the bank has been lost. Reluctantly I am going to have to reduce my stake amount and press on as would hate to stop betting and then see results turn around.

      Hopefully us guys that are struggling right now will see a change in fortunes sometime soon!

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