20 August 2025

20 thoughts on “How do Bookmakers Tick? How & Why do they Set Their Odds as they do?

  1. Whatever you bet, please don’t bet your tie and shirt cause you can’t beat these fat tummy bookies. These guys are guarded by the ghost point spread system. Whats your guard? fortune? probability? Luck? Chances? What?
    So long as you bet they way betting is set out to be done then you cant make profit, these guys had make their own research to confirm that they cant lose. Thats why betting is open for any man to bet, even Albert Einstein had right to bet

  2. Hi Leo,

    What we are talking about is balancing the books in the ante post market – the period leading up to kick-off.

    Bookmakers certainly do attempt to balance their books; otherwise they would not place bets of their own with other bookmakers, a practice which certainly does happen.

    It happens in other industries too, for example the insurance market, where insurance companies lay off some of their potential liabilities by buying re-insurance. It’s normal practice and every insurer does this to some degree or another.

    You will certainly struggle to make money backing favourites or lower priced events where the margins have to be protective for the bookmakers’ sakes. Where you will always find value is in the underdog market – enough underdogs win at HT and FT in many leagues worldwide to make handsome profits. The only problem for bettors is the psychology of playing longer odds and coping with longer losing streaks.

    With homework, patience and persistence you can certainly make big yields, but those looking for more instant success are usually those who believe in getting rich quick, which is a fallacy when applied to betting of any nature.

    Check out our 1×2 Home, Draw, Away, Favourites & Underdogs tables for a taste of what I mean. The supporting videos (due in the next day or so) are also very revealing.

    Thanks for taking the trouble to write and best wishes.

  3. A bookmaker doesn’t balance anything. Tommy is right. The problem is that even at best prices in the market, over the long-term an individual punter is still a loser. And by the way, Betfair is a joke! I rarely bet, but I test a lot and it is my belief that you can’t beat the market mathematically. The in-built margins are deadly.

  4. As far as I understand it you get odds compilers that specialise in certain events like soccer, tennis, darts etc. They tend to be like a market maker attracting other bookmakers to advertise similar odds. They know how much money they want to attract to certain events depending on what they’ve made or lost over the year and they do their advertising with the odds. Too high and they get too much money creating too much risk, making them too low and they don’t get enough money. Due to this spread off odds it’s possible to spot profitable differences in the odds between different bookmakers. Which takes the betting out of the equation. Known as arbitrage betting.

  5. I’ve never read such nonsense. I’m a trader for a rather big firm. The priority is not balancing the books whatsoever. Take the West Ham vs Man City game last week. When WH went a goal ahead early on, City went out to about 7/4 and gradually the price got bigger. The only bet 95% of customers were placing was on Man City to win. How on earth is a trader supposed to balance the books in that case.

    An odds compilers job is to set market prices accurately with inbuilt margin. A bookie may lose on loads of games/races/markets. But over the course of a year with thousands of evernts, they know their inbuilt margin will make them a profit, as the ‘well backed’ selection will lose enough times for that.

    1. Hi Tommy, thanks for your comment and valuable input.

      What you say adds nicely to my latest article: Are Betting Odds Worthwhile Calculating? Are Betting Odds Always Fair?, especially as I explain there odds compiling for the so-called favorite Man City in their match against West Ham.

      This match was an excellent example of a ‘well-backed’ and under-priced section of the books. However, in the article I have only shown that Man City was hugely under-priced before the match. Therefore, as you’re mentioning 7/4, after WH’s first goal, this was even more under-priced! Thanks for the insight!

      By the way, we are planning an article series of interviews with people who work for the betting industry. Should you be interested to be the first, please get in touch with me: admin[at]soccerwidow[dot]com

  6. About live betting, let’s say we calculated probabilities of 75% (odds 1.30) for a given match to have 3 goals or less pregame (Under 3.5); when the game begins there’s a goal within the first 5 minutes so the odds in this market increase to 2.10 or something like that, which is of course a fantastic price according to our calculated 75% of success; at this stage should I take advantage of this situation and place a bet in the Under 3.5 or should I stay away from such move?; I wonder if taking advantage of early goals can be implemented as a strategy related to pregame calculated probabilities; it is just an example but in fact this can be applied to any market depending on what’s happening during the match, but I’m not really sure if the concept of value betting extends beyond pre match calculations.

    1. Yes jogomo, we have some clients who successfully use the calculations from our Value Bet Detector to identify value in the live betting market. Here an article on this subject submitted by a client: A Trader’s Point Of View

      However, please always remember that whatever strategy you wish to employ, you need to study the market first including loads of paper exercises before committing any money. Once you find your strategy then stick to it, don’t experiment.

  7. Thanks once again for your interest in Soccerwidow.

    We do have a product for Champions League and Europa League matches – see our site at the following link:

    https://www.soccerwidow.com/betting-maths/true-odds-value-detector-international-club-competitions-with-no-head-to-head-history/

    So far as ‘live odds’ are concerned, the odds at bookmakers change all the time according to how balanced their books are – there is no formula which a bettor can use for this – it purely depends on how much money the bookmaker has taken on an outcome and how he wishes to offset his risk through price fluctuations as the match progresses.

    Betting exchanges such as Betfair are to some extent led by the bookmaker prices but as far as knowing what the price effects on a goal being scored by one team or the other, this is pure trial and error, and is different for every game. There simply is no way to calculate by how much the odds will change and I can only suggest observing and recording fluctuation patterns before ever committing money to an in-play bet.

    I hope this helps and thanks for your question.

  8. Can you please explain to me how bookmakers calculate odds for champion league or European league?

    Which data are using and what quantity of data because there is not many mutual meetings (H2 history)?

    Also I want to know how calculate live odds? Which formula are using for calculating?

    I hope that you will answer to me soon.

  9. If we have a situation where a bookmaker is deliberately moving his odds away from the norm in order to make the amount of money bet on each team lopsided. Then this particular bookmaker is not trying to balance their books but rather is having a bet themselves with the bookmakers’ margin still on their side.

    Unfortunately, it is impossible to work out the actual true probability of a team winning; if we could, then we would be amazingly rich! But we can always attempt to approximate it.

    1. Odds compilers know that many fans will blindly bet with their own team no matter what. In a derby match the home team is usually favourite 4/6-6/4 and the away side can be 2/1-3/1 and the draw will be 12/5. So essentially the fans of the opposing sides will cover each others bets. Add in all the people that put on 1st goalscorer correct score bets (even harder to get) and they would struggle to lose money.

      Some bookies even have a team of specialist odds compilers that enable you to make almost any bet (my 4 year old son to play for England/Scotland 500/1), If you ask for odds of you climbing Everest they will look at your fitness, experience, percentage of summit attempts that succeed and give you odds.

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