4 July 2025

48 thoughts on “HDAFU Tables: £10k in 178 days with the Summer Leagues

  1. Hi Right Winger,

    I suppose it would take a separate article to clarify that, but can you at least give some comments about your stake management tweaks you’re going to implement in the next season? How you’re going to set those limits when stakes will be reduced and vice versa?

  2. Hello Jo,

    With the progressive nature of the system, we will set ourselves bankroll growth targets.

    For example, if the bankroll grows by +5%, stakes will increase by +5% until the next target is met.

    Of course, the stop-loss mechanism is driven to some extent by the stake ratchet and the bankroll growth. Revised stop-loss financial thresholds need setting as soon as stakes are adjusted upwards.

    When the system isn’t going forwards, the stop-loss mechanism will provide some insulation against losses. It works in reverse to the growth method. Setting of this figure may also depend upon the nature of each system: low risk/low return or high risk/high return – for us probably set at 45% and 30%, respectively.

    Of course, it goes without saying that each individual system within our portfolio will be managed on its own criteria. Setting of starting bank for each system is done according to maximum expected losing streak.

    But honestly, it’s about personal choice, the size of your starting bank, the size of your initial stakes, your attitude to risk, the balance of your portfolio, and yes, you’re right – I could fill an article with thoughts on this!

    Thanks for your question Jo, and for your valuable custom.

    1. I am very interested in knowing the criteria for managing the starting bankroll. It seems that the campaign described in this article was managed using a single bankroll, yet now you said that it is advised to split the bankroll according to every single system. That would mean that if a single system exceeds the forecasted maximum losing streak, it’s bankroll goes to 0 and the system failed, with no need to continue betting on it. Is that the approach you are suggesting? So let’s say that one of my systems have a predicted maximum losing streak of 8. I decide to set the bankroll for this particular system to 10 units accordingly. If the balance of this system reaches 0 before the end of the season i stop the betting associated with it and focus on the other systems. That approach leaves room for a very limited numbers of systems. Some systems may have losing streaks of 20, 30. You had 15 systems in your campaign, and based on this assumptions the initial bankroll could have easy exceeded 10000£, based on the 100£ units described. If you have to run a winter leagues systems parallel to this, that can double the amount (again, choosing just a limited amount of systems).I guess this is the slowest and safest course of action to be protected against bad runs. I am curious though if thanks to the synergies from the other systems this can be pushed a little bit more to be able to include more systems/betting opportunities. That would work better without splitting the main bankroll system to system but then again some kind of calculation would be required to monitor the growing risk of adding new systems. I would really be interested in reading an article from you talking about setting up and managing your bankroll for this type of strategy. As we can convene that managing your bankroll is a vital, if not the most important, part of the business.

      1. Hi Daniele,

        Thanks for the many questions!

        Yes, the 2016 campaign was based on flat stakes and the starting bank was less than £2,500.

        Now we have a larger starting bank, what we are doing in 2017 is employing both a stop-loss and ratchet system to make more of our money going forwards.

        Starting off with flat stakes in each system again, we have bankroll growth targets in each system. Once bankroll has increased by 5%, stakes will be increased by 5%. If the bankroll reaches 10% growth from the starting figure, we will ratchet-up the stakes again to 110% of the original figure, and so on.

        Likewise, we will employ a stop-loss at the other end to reduce losses such as our Norway example. It will work in complete reverse to the ratchet system. If the system is failing, the stakes will therefore become progressively smaller to reduce the risk to the overall portfolio. It’s effectively a layer of insurance.

        Our entire bankroll is quantified by the maximum losing streak of the riskiest system. For example, if we start off staking 100 units per bet, and the riskiest system shows a predicted maximum losing streak of 15, then our overall portfolio bankroll will be set at 2-3 times this amount (depending upon personal preference and balance of your portfolio). Say our portfolio has a healthy balance of low risk, medium risk and high risk systems. Maximum losing streak in our riskiest system is 15. Stake is 100 per bet. 100 x 15 x 2 = 3,000 unit starting bank.

        Preferably, you should maintain a healthy balance of risk in your portfolio. Choose a higher multiplier if you need extra reassurance or security. 100 x 15 x 3 = 4,500 starting bank.

        Because of the synergy factor it is literally impossible to lose your entire bankroll if you have a large enough portfolio (at least 500 bets in the campaign), a healthy balance of risk within it, and an adequate starting bank. (Plus the discipline to stick to the game plan).

        With regards to allocating the starting bank per system, we were unable to do this properly during 2016 due to the relatively small size of our starting bank. In the new season, we will employ more systems, but the starting stake will be the same 100 units – although the starting bankroll is larger, it will have to cope with larger numbers of bets, and we need to ensure we always have enough money in our bookmaker accounts to feed the portfolio.

        We therefore apply nominal starting bankroll values to each system based on the maximum losing streak of that system. In other words, these are paper figures which set the thresholds for managing each system with the ratchet and stop-loss mechanisms. They do not represent proportions of the actual starting bankroll but merely act as guides as to when stakes should be increased and when they should be reduced.

        This is a difficult concept for some people to understand but when your bankroll isn’t large enough to physically allocate proportionately to each system, then having a virtual bankroll for each system is the only way of managing it.

        You mention considering systems with up to a maximum of 30 losing bets in a row. Personally speaking, we look for systems under losing streaks of 20. We want the portfolio to be as tight as possible. The synergy effect is lessened by including systems with losing streaks as high as 20 and beyond. The portfolio gets too stretched and the lower risk supporting bets have trouble making up for the greater losses in the higher risk systems.

        Phew, a long answer, but I hope this helps!

  3. Hi Zinphyosein,

    This is system betting, with value always on your side.

    The approach is more fully explained in our User Guide article.

    Thanks for your question!

  4. Hi Right Winger,

    in the end of the article you said that bet types for the next season might remain the same, but odds parameters change every season. After doing my own analysis for the next season of Ireland and Japan I found out that not only the bet types, but also odds ranges can virtually remain the same. It’s only the the bottom of the range that barely changed – like 0.01. The top of the range can be shorter, the same or longer odds than it was in the last season, but I would be fine either way. Of course, yield, ROI and number of bets differ noticeably. Some systems with shorter or longer top odds would provide better yield and ROI, but bottom odds of the range are virtually the same. I read your words, stare at the numbers I came up to, and find myself confused. Maybe you have a comment about it…

    1. Hello again Jo,

      I am not 100% sure what you mean by, “After doing my own analysis for the next season of Ireland and Japan I found out that not only the bet types, but also odds ranges can virtually remain the same.”

      Perhaps look at our HDAFU Table User Guide article for the definitive way of analysing the tables.

      If you are looking at Japan and Ireland from the perspective of comparing the 2016 HDAFU table with the 2017 table, then look at only the whole season analysis in the latter. Compare the two tables using the methods outlined in the User Guide, and then let me know what you think.

      Good luck and thanks for your question.

  5. I mean I sorted data and results indicate that betting exactly same bet types and odds ranges in the 2017 season you bet in 2016 of Ireland and Japan leagues would still work well. But at the end of this article you said that odds parameters change every season and they would not work in the next season. This is what confused me. Thanks for the link, I didn’t see those updates yet. I will read it carefully, but after quick look I’m sure I managed to do everything like it’s explained in the article. The only thing I didn’t do is I didn’t include favourites and underdogs odds in the sorting, but since I didn’t care about backing them, I suppose sorting results didn’t go wrong?

  6. Hi Right Winger,

    I read the article and detected my mistake. It was wrong filtering, To filter data I relied on graph helper columns in Inflection points tab. Now I filtered Paraguayan tables right and wrong ways and in the latter zero odds were 3.016. 0.01 difference compared with correct 3.006, but once I redo Japan and Ireland I should find much larger deviations, since every possible strategy I considered have zero odds somewhere in between of my targeted odds range, not below. HDAFU user guide was really helpful to understand how to filter data and what to look for (zero odds lower than first inflection point value), without it I would’ve gone wrong.

    1. Hello again Zin,

      Highest is as stated a purely arbitrary figure made up of the synthesis of the highest single season in each league. As this is not necessarily the same season in each league, it represents only what is possible if the neglible chance does in fact transpire. In other words, if every one of our systems hits a 6-season high in the new season. You will agree this is pretty unlikely.

      Lowest is exactly the same as the highest, but in reverse.

      Average is the more realistic target.

      I hope this helps.

    1. Zin,

      Sorry, I’m not sure I understand the question. If you want to buy any of the 14 Summer League Excel files (you get three for each league), then you can buy them here.

  7. Hello Right Winger,

    i want to ask you: in what timeframe do you usually place your system bets? Do you wait as much as possible before kick off time or you use other cryterias? I found that if one should wait for the closest possible time, with multiple championships this can be really difficult to manage. However, i also found that odds (even higher odds) tend to change frequently during the last hours pre kick off. So i am curious about how do you manage this particular matter.

    Thanks for your time!

    1. Hello again Daniele,

      We place the bets always within the last hour before kick-off. Our analysis is based on odds at close of the ante post market, and we want to operate as close to this benchmark as possible to be true to our analysis.

      The odds do fluctuate a lot in some cases as soon as team news is released, which is usually an hour or less before kick-off time.

      If a price is within our threshold inflection points, we place the bet regardless.

      If it is close to the inflection points but not quite in the threshold, we request a price that is high enough to place the odds within our threshold using betting exchanges (of course calculating net of the exchange’s commission rate).

      Yes, it is hard work, and a lot of attention to detail is required but if you want the best fruits, you have to climb the trees, as they say…

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