2 July 2025

30 thoughts on “True Odds & Value Detector: International Club Competitions (with no head-to-head history)

  1. Hi, i have a problem when opening the football database from football-data.co.uk When i opened it doesn’t have a decent tablet formart instead its just text with comas. Do you know how to fix it?

    1. Hi Yunte,

      When you click on the files in football-data.co.uk, instead of choosing to open them, save them instead.

      The files are in CSV format on their site (Comma Separated Values). Choose to save the file as an Excel Workbook and you should then be able to see all the information. (You may have to close the saved file and then reopen it).

      This should solve your problem.

      1. Thanks it worked. I’ve another question, in LaLiga there are teams that have been relegated (sporting, osasuna and granada) and others have been promoted (levante, girona, getafe). What should i do now with the data of h2h between the teams that are now relegated to LaLiga123 and the new teams in the first division? Hope you understand my question

  2. Hello, what should i do if im trying to calculate a LaLiga match but some teams have descended to liga123 and other have ascended to LaLiga? I won’t have info between the new teams vs the other teams. Hope you understand me 😀

    1. Games with teams that have been relegated or promoted you will have to leave alone. There are too many unknown factors which the calculations in both Value Calculators don’t factor in.

  3. Hi Right Winger,

    one additional information: after the download I noticed, that the home sheet, cell E22, is protected/locked by an unknown password (I guess, by accident). There are some tricks to unlock it (what I did) but I wonder that no one else mentioned it here or informed you in the past.

    1. Thank you, acepoint! It’s really odd but your are the first (since 2012!!!) who pointed this marginal error out to us. Probably all other people either found a way round this like you did, or they just didn’t fill in the cell as it’s not necessary for the calculations as cell E22 is within a ‘cosmetic’ column in the home tab.

      Anyway, I have just corrected the cell E22 and uploaded an updated version to the store.

      Thank you again!!! 🙂

  4. Hi again,

    one (hopefully) last question regarding the international sheet. In the video I have noticed, that you count international games twice: at first in the home tab and additionally in the H-international tab. Same for the away team. Is this correct? And what’s the reason for taking these games twice?

    1. Hello again Acepoint,.

      In the head-to-head tab, definitely include all relevant, competitive games between the two teams, even if this means duplicating one or two results in the home/away tabs.

      The H-international tab acts as a correction factor to each team’s set of home or away results, and if some of these have been against each other, then these are valid statistics, which bring a little more focus to the fixture in question.

      Retaining the duplicate information therefore adds more relevancy to the set of data we are using to form our opinions.

      It may well be that the two teams in question have played each other more times in the same time scale as our data set than any other team shown in their last set of home or away games.

      This is recent, relevant information and needs to be included, even if the duplicated data makes little or no difference to the eventual calculated values.

      You will see a difference when the difference matters, and this could be the difference between a positive or negative bet value, or enough of a difference to push the yield of a bet into your portfolio (when otherwise you would have discarded it).

      I hope this helps!

      1. Hi Right Winger,

        thx for the quick response, but I think you misunderstood what I meant. In the video (min 1:17 you see the CL game Real Madrid vs Ajax in the home tab, in min 2:29 you find the same game in the H-international tab. That is he duplication I was talking about. Anyhow, after reading your answer I guess that putting a certain CL or EL game into both (home and H-international) was on purpose.

  5. Hi Soccerwidow,

    How would you calculate odds for this year’s champions league final?
    Am I right to assume that you use the last 30 away games for each team , all competitions, and the results against teams from the same nation’s opponent when away for the last 5 to 8 years ? i.e real madrid playing away against english teams and liverpool playing away against spanish clubs ..

    1. Hi Sokrates,

      it would be too good to be true if it would be that easy. Sorry, but it isn’t.

      Two teams playing in the finals… if you would have head to head competitions from exactly the same teams in international competitions then you may consider these but you certainly haven’t. But only because a team has been playing another team from the same nation… No! This is absolutely not comparable.

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